TEI TRC Core Subcommittee

Notes for telephone conference of 1997-02-10

TC Core M06


Dominic Dunlop

14 February 1997

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Administrivia

0.1 Agenda for this meeting

The group agreed to continue its review of TEI TRC Core W02, Summary of status: Problems assigned to the TEI TRC Core Subcommittee ( HTML version); and to discuss CMSMcQ's document, TEI TRC Core W04, Proposal for an anonymous block element( HTML version).

0.2 Minutes of previous meeting

Nobody, not even the minute-taker, could discern the meaning of the tables relating to decision criteria for element class membership. There will be no attempt to make them more comprehensible.

1 Review of TEI TRC Core W04, Proposal for an anonymous block element

CMSMcQ's proposal was welcomed. The "Open questions" were resolved as follows:

What to call it?: <ab> (anonymous block), both because of its terseness, and because, unlike <bl> or <bk>, its meaning may not easily be mistaken as book, blue, black, blank, or whatever.

Define in TEI.analysis or in core?: TEI.analysis. The construct's similarity to <seg>, and the difficulty of incorporating both it and <seg> into the core, suggest that its home should be in TEI.analysis. EM pointed out that many users would be likely to want only <ab> and <seg> from TEI.analysis: the tag set's other baggage could be confusing, particularly to those using a syntax-directed editor for data entry. It was agreed that the Guidelines should give instructions on how to use just these two elements from TEI.analysis.

%chunk or %inter?: %chunk. The group felt that what was required was an element with the characteristics of <p>, but without the semantic baggage. This leaves open the possible requirement for a self-nesting anonymous block element which can be used at all levels.

The group agreed to revisit the proposal after canvassing public opinion on a revised version.

ACTION: LB: Rework proposal to remove "Open questions" section and reflect the group's decisions; post in public place, and announce availability on TEI-L.

STATUS: Open

2 Continuation of review of TEI TRC Core W02, Summary of status ...

1.3.8 Harry Gaylord 1995-11-01 -- Request for s as child of div

<s> cannot be a child of <div>; the <div> must contain at least one <p>, <l> or (following decision of section 1 above) <ab>, which can be parent to the <s>s. Indeed, <ab> may be used to perform the function for which Harry wanted to use <s>: the marking of verses in psalms.

ACTION: None

STATUS: Closed

1.3.9 Nick Finke, 1995-12-1, byline

This issue cannot be resolved until the discussion on the contents of %phrase.seq is concluded.

ACTION: None

STATUS: Open

1.3.10 Keith Handley, 1996-03-14 -- Request for empty divs to be legal

The group resolved, LB dissenting, that empty <div>s should be legal.

ACTION: None

STATUS: Closed

2.2 E.H.M. Van den Hout, 1995-05-11 -- Request for lg as parent of q

The group agreed that <q> should be legal as a child of <lg>.

ACTION: None

STATUS: Closed

2.3 Jean Veronis, 1995-07-05 -- "rend" attribute for abbr

The group agreed with the suggestion in document W02( HTML version) that the <hi> element should be used to mark parts of abbreviations having renditions different from their surroundings.

ACTION: None

STATUS: Closed

2.7 Syd Bauman, 1995-09-18 -- Request for allowing of descriptive content within certainty; handling of errata lists

The group agreed with the suggestion in document W02 ( HTML version) that <note> should be used in situations where the existing "desc" attribute was judged insufficient for the description of a <certainty> element: Syd's request should be turned down. Again per W02( HTML version) , a note on the handling of errata lists should be included in the next revision of the Guidelines.

ACTION: None

STATUS: Closed

2.8 Dominic Dunlop, 1995-10-25 -- MS markup

The proposed new <ab> element (see section 1 above) resolves the problem raised in this exchange.

ACTION: None

STATUS: Closed

2.10 Henry S. Thompson, 1995-10-06 -- SEG

This is the same issue as that in 2.9 Lou Burnard, 1995-10-05, and is open pending LB's completion of his action on that issue.

ACTION: LB: Draft solution ensuring that <seg> can occur within <u> and can contain the elements legal there.

STATUS: Open

Dominic Dunlop